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		<title>By: Mindy Klasky</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/11/01/writers-behaving-badly/#comment-7662</link>
		<author>Mindy Klasky</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - I think that review-obsession is a major problem.  (I think of it as a problem for the author, though, rather than for society at large.  I think of *responding* to reviews as authorial bad behavior!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James - I think that review-obsession is a major problem.  (I think of it as a problem for the author, though, rather than for society at large.  I think of *responding* to reviews as authorial bad behavior!</p>
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		<title>By: James Davis Nicoll</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/11/01/writers-behaving-badly/#comment-7651</link>
		<author>James Davis Nicoll</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about obsessing over reviews? I'm thinking of various melt-downs a few authors have had over less than entirely positive reviews. 

Come to think of it, aside from one newbie who was using sock-puppets to promote his new (and thus far only) SF novel, most of the more spectacular flame-outs involved established writers. May be that nobody mentions it when a new author starts talking about reviewer interrogating their text from the wrong perspective....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about obsessing over reviews? I&#8217;m thinking of various melt-downs a few authors have had over less than entirely positive reviews. </p>
<p>Come to think of it, aside from one newbie who was using sock-puppets to promote his new (and thus far only) SF novel, most of the more spectacular flame-outs involved established writers. May be that nobody mentions it when a new author starts talking about reviewer interrogating their text from the wrong perspective&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy Klasky</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/11/01/writers-behaving-badly/#comment-7459</link>
		<author>Mindy Klasky</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicole - I think that part of the problem is that we have so few metrics to gauge where we are in the field, that we start to rely on the type of false metrics that you summarize.  That's counter-productive, of course, and counter-sanity, but we do it all the same.

Sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole - I think that part of the problem is that we have so few metrics to gauge where we are in the field, that we start to rely on the type of false metrics that you summarize.  That&#8217;s counter-productive, of course, and counter-sanity, but we do it all the same.</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole R Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/11/01/writers-behaving-badly/#comment-7457</link>
		<author>Nicole R Murphy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing yourself to other writers. "I don't plan, I must be crap". "I have to plan every little thing, I must be crap". "I don't write fast enough, I must be crap"... You can see the pattern.

It's important to learn who you are, how you write, what works for you, in order to be the best writer you can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing yourself to other writers. &#8220;I don&#8217;t plan, I must be crap&#8221;. &#8220;I have to plan every little thing, I must be crap&#8221;. &#8220;I don&#8217;t write fast enough, I must be crap&#8221;&#8230; You can see the pattern.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to learn who you are, how you write, what works for you, in order to be the best writer you can be.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy Klasky</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/11/01/writers-behaving-badly/#comment-7449</link>
		<author>Mindy Klasky</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh - and Mike - I completely agree!  The ways that we procrastinate are truly astonishing!  Perhaps I can write an entire guideline-for-writers, solely on procrastination techniques...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh - and Mike - I completely agree!  The ways that we procrastinate are truly astonishing!  Perhaps I can write an entire guideline-for-writers, solely on procrastination techniques&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy Klasky</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/11/01/writers-behaving-badly/#comment-7448</link>
		<author>Mindy Klasky</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alma, Glenda, and Elias -  Thanks for your continuing thoughts!

I totally agree about the genre-trashing thing.  This past weekend, I had dinner with a loooong-time friend, and I told him about the contemporary fantasy romance that I'm writing.  He pointed out that I was denigrating it myself, an attitude that I wasn't even conscious of presenting.

Elias - it's great that you're aware of your tendency to social awkwardness.  Online communities are great places to work out some of those bugs.  As for finding the right writing workshop - sometimes, online, genre-friendly options can substitute for less hospitable in-person venues!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alma, Glenda, and Elias -  Thanks for your continuing thoughts!</p>
<p>I totally agree about the genre-trashing thing.  This past weekend, I had dinner with a loooong-time friend, and I told him about the contemporary fantasy romance that I&#8217;m writing.  He pointed out that I was denigrating it myself, an attitude that I wasn&#8217;t even conscious of presenting.</p>
<p>Elias - it&#8217;s great that you&#8217;re aware of your tendency to social awkwardness.  Online communities are great places to work out some of those bugs.  As for finding the right writing workshop - sometimes, online, genre-friendly options can substitute for less hospitable in-person venues!</p>
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		<title>By: Elias McClellan</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/11/01/writers-behaving-badly/#comment-7436</link>
		<author>Elias McClellan</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Larke, I tend to agree with your remark about genre-trashing.  Part of the challenge I have faced is finding a workshop that doesn't aspire to litarary heights.  I respect that but it's not what I do or want to do.  My Alma Matre, the University of Houston has a good creative writing program but it's the same schtick.  There is some love given for mystery/crime but nothing for SF&#38;F.  Unfortunately, Clarion is and will be out of my league.

As for the sour-grapes-set, or the 'hook-up' argument, you're right there as well.  They either quit the business or the work long enough to see there no inducement to a publisher to expend on a run of books based on a personal relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Larke, I tend to agree with your remark about genre-trashing.  Part of the challenge I have faced is finding a workshop that doesn&#8217;t aspire to litarary heights.  I respect that but it&#8217;s not what I do or want to do.  My Alma Matre, the University of Houston has a good creative writing program but it&#8217;s the same schtick.  There is some love given for mystery/crime but nothing for SF&amp;F.  Unfortunately, Clarion is and will be out of my league.</p>
<p>As for the sour-grapes-set, or the &#8216;hook-up&#8217; argument, you&#8217;re right there as well.  They either quit the business or the work long enough to see there no inducement to a publisher to expend on a run of books based on a personal relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: glenda larke</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/11/01/writers-behaving-badly/#comment-7435</link>
		<author>glenda larke</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably a sub-group of your last point Mindy, but I dislike the trashing of other genres by writers of a different genre. And I hasten to say, that is different from saying "I love fantasy but romance is not my cup of tea" - nothing wrong with expressing preferences. I mean the kind of blanket condemnation you hear sometimes. A very famous  writer of one genre once told me "What a waste!" when I told him I wrote fantasy. I heard later that he made exactly the same remark to someone else too. Loathe that. 

And writers having trouble getting published for the first time sometimes turn to trashing published writers generally: "Oh they must know someone in the business..." "Oh, they only got published because they were lucky/write popular trash/etc etc."  Quite apart from the rudeness, this kind of comment is likely to come back and hit them on the nose later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably a sub-group of your last point Mindy, but I dislike the trashing of other genres by writers of a different genre. And I hasten to say, that is different from saying &#8220;I love fantasy but romance is not my cup of tea&#8221; - nothing wrong with expressing preferences. I mean the kind of blanket condemnation you hear sometimes. A very famous  writer of one genre once told me &#8220;What a waste!&#8221; when I told him I wrote fantasy. I heard later that he made exactly the same remark to someone else too. Loathe that. </p>
<p>And writers having trouble getting published for the first time sometimes turn to trashing published writers generally: &#8220;Oh they must know someone in the business&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;Oh, they only got published because they were lucky/write popular trash/etc etc.&#8221;  Quite apart from the rudeness, this kind of comment is likely to come back and hit them on the nose later.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Barker</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/11/01/writers-behaving-badly/#comment-7434</link>
		<author>Mike Barker</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't forget "If I can just find the right book/class/teacher, then I'll start writing" disease. Like worldbuilders disease and other agonies of the procrastination family, it feels as if you're doing something... but there are no words appearing on paper as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget &#8220;If I can just find the right book/class/teacher, then I&#8217;ll start writing&#8221; disease. Like worldbuilders disease and other agonies of the procrastination family, it feels as if you&#8217;re doing something&#8230; but there are no words appearing on paper as a result.</p>
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