Comments on: We Are the Orcs http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/ A mutual support group for SF/F Novelists Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:40:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: S.C. Butler http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7084 S.C. Butler Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:57:38 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7084 Dave - I've still got a few. I should give you one next time I see you. Are you going to be at Albacon? Dave – I’ve still got a few. I should give you one next time I see you. Are you going to be at Albacon?

]]> By: NewGuyDave http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7077 NewGuyDave Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:05:49 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7077 That has to go up on cafepress. That has to go up on cafepress.

]]> By: S.C. Butler http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7075 S.C. Butler Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:44:58 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7075 Dave - I sort of already do. Check the link above. Dave – I sort of already do. Check the link above.

]]> By: NewGuyDave http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7073 NewGuyDave Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:26:10 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7073 Sam and Anton, You guys have to get shirts printed, New Orc, New Orc. That's hilarious. NGD Sam and Anton,
You guys have to get shirts printed, New Orc, New Orc. That’s hilarious.

NGD

]]> By: Kelly McCullough http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7045 Kelly McCullough Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:34:30 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7045 Anton wins the internets for the day! Anton wins the internets for the day!

]]> By: S.C. Butler http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7044 S.C. Butler Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:32:41 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7044 Anton - I'll make sure to bring you a shirt at the next Gang of Six (or Seven?) Signing! In the meantime, here's a link to what's on the shirt - http://www.valingstoneways.com/wearetheorcs.html Diana - If you and Anton are gettng into a punfest, this site is dead in the water. Where it will be devoured by, um, orcas, no doubt. Anton – I’ll make sure to bring you a shirt at the next Gang of Six (or Seven?) Signing! In the meantime, here’s a link to what’s on the shirt – http://www.valingstoneways.com/wearetheorcs.html

Diana – If you and Anton are gettng into a punfest, this site is dead in the water. Where it will be devoured by, um, orcas, no doubt.

]]> By: S.C. Butler http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7043 S.C. Butler Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:28:58 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7043 Ju - Congratulations on your nomination for the DPP! (I'm guessing you have a more colorful nickname for it over there.) Good luck! But I actually don't need consoling about my orcish status. I revel in it. Mostly I feel sorry for the folks whose reading is so narrowly focused. They don't know what they're missing! Ju – Congratulations on your nomination for the DPP! (I’m guessing you have a more colorful nickname for it over there.) Good luck!

But I actually don’t need consoling about my orcish status. I revel in it. Mostly I feel sorry for the folks whose reading is so narrowly focused. They don’t know what they’re missing!

]]> By: Diana Pharaoh Francis http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7042 Diana Pharaoh Francis Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:53:37 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7042 Anton . . . you are sooooooooo wrong. *shakes head* But you are my herorc Anton . . . you are sooooooooo wrong. *shakes head* But you are my herorc

]]> By: Ju Honisch http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7041 Ju Honisch Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:12:32 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7041 This won't console you one bit, but it is probably even worse in Germany where mainstream culture is so stuck up and crusted over that people belonging to the so-called well-educated upper middle class are terribly afraid to lose their image as thinking grown-ups if they admit that they read "that stuff". (The sales figures of genre books do speak a different language there but who would admit to it openly...) So "that stuff" leads a completely different life in the book biz from mainstream literature. They never overlap - which is ridiculous because no genre definition can be so absolutely straight. And the actual categorisation as the one or the other is rather random in many cases. You might have guessed: I write "that stuff". "That stuff" is a quote by a feuilleton journalist who studied literature with me at the same university. When I asked her whether she might not - for a change - like to include some little coverage of the fantasy and SF scene in her regular articles on the Frankfurt Book Fair, she said: "Let me assure you that I am not interested in that stuff. None, not a single one, of us are interested in that stuff." - 'Us' presumably being the entirety of journalistic staff of the Frankfurter Rundschau, one of the major German newspapers. This year I am shortlisted for the Deutscher Phantastik Preis (approx. the German Hugo). Mainstreamers do not even know it exists. But every year they choose book award winners around the time of Frankfurt Book Fair honouring the literary labour of someone who took up the fanshionable trend topic and who looks good in the media. And everybody thinks that's CULTURE. This won’t console you one bit, but it is probably even worse in Germany where mainstream culture is so stuck up and crusted over that people belonging to the so-called well-educated upper middle class are terribly afraid to lose their image as thinking grown-ups if they admit that they read “that stuff”. (The sales figures of genre books do speak a different language there but who would admit to it openly…)

So “that stuff” leads a completely different life in the book biz from mainstream literature. They never overlap – which is ridiculous because no genre definition can be so absolutely straight. And the actual categorisation as the one or the other is rather random in many cases.

You might have guessed: I write “that stuff”.

“That stuff” is a quote by a feuilleton journalist who studied literature with me at the same university. When I asked her whether she might not – for a change – like to include some little coverage of the fantasy and SF scene in her regular articles on the Frankfurt Book Fair, she said: “Let me assure you that I am not interested in that stuff. None, not a single one, of us are interested in that stuff.” – ‘Us’ presumably being the entirety of journalistic staff of the Frankfurter Rundschau, one of the major German newspapers.

This year I am shortlisted for the Deutscher Phantastik Preis (approx. the German Hugo). Mainstreamers do not even know it exists. But every year they choose book award winners around the time of Frankfurt Book Fair honouring the literary labour of someone who took up the fanshionable trend topic and who looks good in the media. And everybody thinks that’s CULTURE.

]]> By: S.C. Butler http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7039 S.C. Butler Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:00:24 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2009/09/15/we-are-the-orcs/#comment-7039 Elias - No offense was taken - sorry if I seemed to do so. Elias – No offense was taken – sorry if I seemed to do so.

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