Comments on: Plants In Space http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/ A mutual support group for SF/F Novelists Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:39:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mike Brotherton http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3282 Mike Brotherton Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:33:00 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3282 Oh, and the real lesson is to avoid stuff like this because it will annoy some fraction of readers/viewers. If it doesn't bother you, fine, but don't go trying to tell other people they weren't. In movies especially, the immediate reaction is everything. Oh, and the real lesson is to avoid stuff like this because it will annoy some fraction of readers/viewers. If it doesn’t bother you, fine, but don’t go trying to tell other people they weren’t. In movies especially, the immediate reaction is everything.

]]> By: Mike Brotherton http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3281 Mike Brotherton Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:26:16 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3281 Well, I didn't comment earlier because I hadn't seen the movie, and am not likely to until it hits cable (I'm behind already on higher priority movies and my options in Laramie vanish quickly). Thing is, it usually isn't hard to write a fix to something like this that wouldn't bug people. Geis, you only last about 10-15 seconds in space and you are somewhat worse for wear. 2001 is close to right, but don't think it's okay because it's survivable. We've done the experiment (accidentally) with earth-bound vacuum chambers. One immediate effect is that exposed liquids (e.g., saliva in your mouth, which better be open to let the air out of your expanding lungs) boil. You pass out within 15 seconds. Seems like a cruel thing to do to a poor little plant that does depend on liquids and atmosphere to live. Well, I didn’t comment earlier because I hadn’t seen the movie, and am not likely to until it hits cable (I’m behind already on higher priority movies and my options in Laramie vanish quickly). Thing is, it usually isn’t hard to write a fix to something like this that wouldn’t bug people.

Geis, you only last about 10-15 seconds in space and you are somewhat worse for wear. 2001 is close to right, but don’t think it’s okay because it’s survivable. We’ve done the experiment (accidentally) with earth-bound vacuum chambers. One immediate effect is that exposed liquids (e.g., saliva in your mouth, which better be open to let the air out of your expanding lungs) boil. You pass out within 15 seconds. Seems like a cruel thing to do to a poor little plant that does depend on liquids and atmosphere to live.

]]> By: S.C. Butler http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3206 S.C. Butler Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:40:37 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3206 Josh - I knew I wasn't the only one who thought the movie had things to say about the environement, and all your other points too. Josh – I knew I wasn’t the only one who thought the movie had things to say about the environement, and all your other points too.

]]> By: Joshua Palmatier http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3199 Joshua Palmatier Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:47:17 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3199 Oh, and few things to say about corporations and commerce as well. Oh, and few things to say about corporations and commerce as well.

]]> By: Joshua Palmatier http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3198 Joshua Palmatier Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:45:11 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3198 I actually spent a good portion of the first part of the movie WAITING for them to screw up the plant in space thing. I actually heaved a HUGE sigh of relief when they didn't go for the cockroach in space thing (leaving him behind). The plant in frig thing bothered me as well, except that I realized they never specified that the door to the frig was actually on the frig, only that it was blocking Wall-E's way to the frig. So maybe it had fallen off and was lodged in place, so he had to cut it, but the frig was actually open to the elements . . . But anyway, too much thought on my part for that scene. Then they blew it with the plant (and sound) in space. And we can't let them off with "only for a little bit of time" either because it was inside Wall-E and I seriously doubt he was vacuum-sealed (cockroach could get into him earlier on). I had no problem with the real humans (they were in the ads for the Axiom as well) being there. I also wondered about whether the fire extinguisher would work. In the end, the plant was the only issue that threw me out of the movie, but I still enjoyed it immensely. And it certainly had things to say about us, the environment, and obesity, no matter what anyone else says. I actually spent a good portion of the first part of the movie WAITING for them to screw up the plant in space thing. I actually heaved a HUGE sigh of relief when they didn’t go for the cockroach in space thing (leaving him behind). The plant in frig thing bothered me as well, except that I realized they never specified that the door to the frig was actually on the frig, only that it was blocking Wall-E’s way to the frig. So maybe it had fallen off and was lodged in place, so he had to cut it, but the frig was actually open to the elements . . .

But anyway, too much thought on my part for that scene. Then they blew it with the plant (and sound) in space. And we can’t let them off with “only for a little bit of time” either because it was inside Wall-E and I seriously doubt he was vacuum-sealed (cockroach could get into him earlier on).

I had no problem with the real humans (they were in the ads for the Axiom as well) being there. I also wondered about whether the fire extinguisher would work.

In the end, the plant was the only issue that threw me out of the movie, but I still enjoyed it immensely.

And it certainly had things to say about us, the environment, and obesity, no matter what anyone else says.

]]> By: S.C. Butler http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3197 S.C. Butler Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:49:59 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3197 Geis - I googled for this information before I made the post, but found nothing conclusive either way. I could very easily be wrong. Geis – I googled for this information before I made the post, but found nothing conclusive either way. I could very easily be wrong.

]]> By: S.C. Butler http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3196 S.C. Butler Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:48:58 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3196 Diana - I vote for popcorn, with plenty of butter. Either that or be really vicious to your protag for the next few days. Diana – I vote for popcorn, with plenty of butter. Either that or be really vicious to your protag for the next few days.

]]> By: Geis http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3194 Geis Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:00:56 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3194 I didn't think that the plant was in hard vacuum for very long. Recall that the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey" accurately portrayed what happens to a person in a vacuum for a minute or so, (He has to hold his breath and doesn't have a good time.) I'm sure a plant could weather such an encounter reasonably well. Better than a human would. I didn’t think that the plant was in hard vacuum for very long. Recall that the movie “2001: A Space Odyssey” accurately portrayed what happens to a person in a vacuum for a minute or so, (He has to hold his breath and doesn’t have a good time.) I’m sure a plant could weather such an encounter reasonably well. Better than a human would.

]]> By: Diana Pharaoh Francis http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3193 Diana Pharaoh Francis Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:42:04 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3193 Except today, Sam, I'm a half-bubble off going nuclear. Maybe I should go see the movie again? drug myself insensate with bucket after bucket of hot buttered popcorn? (tracing the root of said meltdown to children and messes. BIG messes today). Except today, Sam, I’m a half-bubble off going nuclear. Maybe I should go see the movie again? drug myself insensate with bucket after bucket of hot buttered popcorn? (tracing the root of said meltdown to children and messes. BIG messes today).

]]> By: S.C. Butler http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3192 S.C. Butler Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:32:07 +0000 http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/07/15/plants-in-space/#comment-3192 DanD - I thought the live action was going to bother me too, old-fashioned cartoon purist that I am. (Shall we discuss rotoscoping now?) For some reason it didn't, though. Maybe your answer's the right one. Or maybe they were just looking for Fred (and the cast of Hello Dolly) to liven things up a bit. Diana - Unlike, Jim, Kelly, and me, you seem to be able to overcome curmudgeonliness much more easily than we do. DanD – I thought the live action was going to bother me too, old-fashioned cartoon purist that I am. (Shall we discuss rotoscoping now?) For some reason it didn’t, though. Maybe your answer’s the right one. Or maybe they were just looking for Fred (and the cast of Hello Dolly) to liven things up a bit.

Diana – Unlike, Jim, Kelly, and me, you seem to be able to overcome curmudgeonliness much more easily than we do.

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