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		<title>By: Rubus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rubus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That a book has to look beautiful on the bookshelf goes without saying, but I prefer abstract art or landscapes over portraits. First of al, I never get a good grip on if the picture was selected from the story, &quot;is this how the person looks?&quot;, or if it is stock art gallery that seemed to fit (a reasonable price and not too far off). Secondly, fantasy books tend to be quite colourful which make any decent bookshelf look like the rainbow on LSD. The best cover arts are those that has a specific art for the spine, e.g. the front artwork in a miniature or a darker hue for the background colour and the title in not too stylised typography. Heavy Planet by Hal Clement, Orb (0-765-30368-X), is a beautiful example of a good spine while most of Pratchett&#039;s books won&#039;t let your eyes rest on the bookshelf, they take your eyes and walk  into the alley and make something abusive to them. The cover arts are true art, but letting the books sit beside themselves on the shelf is pure violence to the eyes.

Something that gets on my nerve, and Misty Massey touched upon above, is the way women are portrayed; so many book covers scream &quot;artist (and probably buyer) seriously needs to get out more often and meet girls&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That a book has to look beautiful on the bookshelf goes without saying, but I prefer abstract art or landscapes over portraits. First of al, I never get a good grip on if the picture was selected from the story, &#8220;is this how the person looks?&#8221;, or if it is stock art gallery that seemed to fit (a reasonable price and not too far off). Secondly, fantasy books tend to be quite colourful which make any decent bookshelf look like the rainbow on LSD. The best cover arts are those that has a specific art for the spine, e.g. the front artwork in a miniature or a darker hue for the background colour and the title in not too stylised typography. Heavy Planet by Hal Clement, Orb (0-765-30368-X), is a beautiful example of a good spine while most of Pratchett&#8217;s books won&#8217;t let your eyes rest on the bookshelf, they take your eyes and walk  into the alley and make something abusive to them. The cover arts are true art, but letting the books sit beside themselves on the shelf is pure violence to the eyes.</p>
<p>Something that gets on my nerve, and Misty Massey touched upon above, is the way women are portrayed; so many book covers scream &#8220;artist (and probably buyer) seriously needs to get out more often and meet girls&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I will pick up a book in a bookstore if the cover attracts my eye, and that is despite knowing that the cover is merely a marketing tool.  And yet, my eye likes striking design and images.  I may not purchase the book, but more than once I have only bought a book with a really crappy cover only after hearing other people mention what a good book it is, so even though I should know better, I&#039;m still susceptible.

otoh, not everyone shops for books in the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I will pick up a book in a bookstore if the cover attracts my eye, and that is despite knowing that the cover is merely a marketing tool.  And yet, my eye likes striking design and images.  I may not purchase the book, but more than once I have only bought a book with a really crappy cover only after hearing other people mention what a good book it is, so even though I should know better, I&#8217;m still susceptible.</p>
<p>otoh, not everyone shops for books in the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Coe</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B. Coe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have had beautiful covers, Alis.  I would love to know what number of readers choose a book based on the jacket art.  I have some anecdotal evidence that it does happen -- people emailing me to let me know that they picked up one of my titles based on the cover and enjoyed the book, or something like that.  But I wonder if anyone has looked into this in a more systemic way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have had beautiful covers, Alis.  I would love to know what number of readers choose a book based on the jacket art.  I have some anecdotal evidence that it does happen &#8212; people emailing me to let me know that they picked up one of my titles based on the cover and enjoyed the book, or something like that.  But I wonder if anyone has looked into this in a more systemic way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I hope for is a striking cover that will attract the eye and sell the book, and then if I love the cover as well that is like cake AND frosting.

But then, I&#039;ve been extremely fortunate in my covers, over all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I hope for is a striking cover that will attract the eye and sell the book, and then if I love the cover as well that is like cake AND frosting.</p>
<p>But then, I&#8217;ve been extremely fortunate in my covers, over all.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Coe</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B. Coe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Di, I always thought the Path novels were packaged beautifully.  (I need to take a closer look at the Crosspointe books.)  The motif is something I like as well -- as you say, it gives readers a visual clue:  &quot;These books go together.&quot;  I had that with the Forelands books, which had a Celtic motif on the borders.  I&#039;m not sure how they&#039;ll do it with the Southlands books.

Eliza, I suppose I&#039;m coming around to the point of view you articulate, because you&#039;re right:  what works for one book or one set of books, may not work for another.  A scene might be right for an epic fantasy series, but I have a darker, contemporary thing that I&#039;m trying to sell right now, and I think that those covers, when the books are published, will need to be more impressionistic.  Thanks for the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Di, I always thought the Path novels were packaged beautifully.  (I need to take a closer look at the Crosspointe books.)  The motif is something I like as well &#8212; as you say, it gives readers a visual clue:  &#8220;These books go together.&#8221;  I had that with the Forelands books, which had a Celtic motif on the borders.  I&#8217;m not sure how they&#8217;ll do it with the Southlands books.</p>
<p>Eliza, I suppose I&#8217;m coming around to the point of view you articulate, because you&#8217;re right:  what works for one book or one set of books, may not work for another.  A scene might be right for an epic fantasy series, but I have a darker, contemporary thing that I&#8217;m trying to sell right now, and I think that those covers, when the books are published, will need to be more impressionistic.  Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Misty Massey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misty Massey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 00:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When things first started rolling, I admit being a little nervous.  After all, it was a book about a female pirate, and I&#039;d heard plenty of horror stories...what if I ended up with a cover that screamed &quot;Captain Boobalicious and Her Amazing Gravity-Defying Cleavage&quot;?  

Instead, I scored a gorgeous cover by an incredible artist, Shelly Wan.  My editor and I emailed back and forth about scenes from the book we thought would translate well to a book cover, but Shelly finally went with an evocative (though less specific) painting.  

No complaints from me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When things first started rolling, I admit being a little nervous.  After all, it was a book about a female pirate, and I&#8217;d heard plenty of horror stories&#8230;what if I ended up with a cover that screamed &#8220;Captain Boobalicious and Her Amazing Gravity-Defying Cleavage&#8221;?  </p>
<p>Instead, I scored a gorgeous cover by an incredible artist, Shelly Wan.  My editor and I emailed back and forth about scenes from the book we thought would translate well to a book cover, but Shelly finally went with an evocative (though less specific) painting.  </p>
<p>No complaints from me!</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 22:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually in the same discussion with a cover artist right now. I care about the style. The current book I&#039;m working on has a classical, yet dark feel, so I wanted an artist who does beautiful, classical shading with a bit of an edge to it.  I have a book in mind next that requires more of an abstract cover that doesn&#039;t completely make sense. Another book needs more of a playful, vivid illustration.

I like characters, but ultimately, I&#039;m more concerned with getting the genre and feel right at first glance. If that requires a pair of hands around a mask in blue lighting, great. If that requires a scene, then so be it. Make it pretty, and get the feel correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually in the same discussion with a cover artist right now. I care about the style. The current book I&#8217;m working on has a classical, yet dark feel, so I wanted an artist who does beautiful, classical shading with a bit of an edge to it.  I have a book in mind next that requires more of an abstract cover that doesn&#8217;t completely make sense. Another book needs more of a playful, vivid illustration.</p>
<p>I like characters, but ultimately, I&#8217;m more concerned with getting the genre and feel right at first glance. If that requires a pair of hands around a mask in blue lighting, great. If that requires a scene, then so be it. Make it pretty, and get the feel correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Pharaoh Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Pharaoh Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my Path novels, all three of the covers are scenes from the book and they match the character well. I didn&#039;t have much input on the scenes (and I didn&#039;t mind because frankly I didn&#039;t have a good sense of what they should be and was content to let them figure it out). What I did ask for was some sort of cover element to pull the three books together visually. I had seen this done with gothic arches on Anne Bishop&#039;s Black Jewels books and I thought it was an excellent idea, especially when the books don&#039;t say they are part of a trilogy anywhere. I suggested the gold ivy since it is an important plot elements and was very pleased that they followed the suggestion and very pleased with the results.

For the Crosspointe books, (and the cover conference for book III was today), I asked again for a cover element to tie them together, in this case a compass rose, which is key to the world. They put it on there, right behind the title, and this time they put on the cover a little banner that says &quot;A novel of Crosspointe.&quot;  The covers of these books I also like a lot. They take some liberties, which is okay, but they capture the flavor of the books. The first cover isn&#039;t really a specific scene, but the second one is. The third we talked about and we knew we wanted to stick with a single person on the cover. The third book has multiple pov characters, so we talked about which person would be the smart choice, and then also what scene might work. Because of certain Things That Happen, the scene has to be from early in the book. I know there will be liberties for the scene, since we only want a single person on the cover, but if they go with what we talked about, I think it will be really excellent. They also want to do something to convey a sense of magic on the cover and I&#039;m not entirely sure how they&#039;ll do that in this particular scene, but it should be fun.

I had one artist for the Path covers and a different one for the Crosspointe books. Both are fabulous and both bring something very cool to the work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my Path novels, all three of the covers are scenes from the book and they match the character well. I didn&#8217;t have much input on the scenes (and I didn&#8217;t mind because frankly I didn&#8217;t have a good sense of what they should be and was content to let them figure it out). What I did ask for was some sort of cover element to pull the three books together visually. I had seen this done with gothic arches on Anne Bishop&#8217;s Black Jewels books and I thought it was an excellent idea, especially when the books don&#8217;t say they are part of a trilogy anywhere. I suggested the gold ivy since it is an important plot elements and was very pleased that they followed the suggestion and very pleased with the results.</p>
<p>For the Crosspointe books, (and the cover conference for book III was today), I asked again for a cover element to tie them together, in this case a compass rose, which is key to the world. They put it on there, right behind the title, and this time they put on the cover a little banner that says &#8220;A novel of Crosspointe.&#8221;  The covers of these books I also like a lot. They take some liberties, which is okay, but they capture the flavor of the books. The first cover isn&#8217;t really a specific scene, but the second one is. The third we talked about and we knew we wanted to stick with a single person on the cover. The third book has multiple pov characters, so we talked about which person would be the smart choice, and then also what scene might work. Because of certain Things That Happen, the scene has to be from early in the book. I know there will be liberties for the scene, since we only want a single person on the cover, but if they go with what we talked about, I think it will be really excellent. They also want to do something to convey a sense of magic on the cover and I&#8217;m not entirely sure how they&#8217;ll do that in this particular scene, but it should be fun.</p>
<p>I had one artist for the Path covers and a different one for the Crosspointe books. Both are fabulous and both bring something very cool to the work.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me first say that I was quite startled to see a reference to Children of Amarid. And even more so to see that you were actually David Coe. I read and loved the LonTobyn novels years ago and still have them on my shelf, but, sadly, very few people I&#039;ve met who read fantasy have heard of them or you. I&#039;ve done my best to right that wrong!

With regard to your question, a couple years ago I was at a convention in the town I was living where there were several authors who are signed with Baen Books as well as several of their editors and staff members. One of the events they did was a discussion of the art that they use for their books. The way they described the process was that for a lot of their new authors, they would use pre-made art that fit the theme of the books, but for their established authors (if those authors cared) they would go through a similar process where they would send the book or excerpts from the book to an artist and then the artist would return something representative of the theme of the book, or highlighting a specific scene. But there weren&#039;t necessarily specific guidelines other than that the art have appropriate whitespace for placing the title and author&#039;s name on top of the art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me first say that I was quite startled to see a reference to Children of Amarid. And even more so to see that you were actually David Coe. I read and loved the LonTobyn novels years ago and still have them on my shelf, but, sadly, very few people I&#8217;ve met who read fantasy have heard of them or you. I&#8217;ve done my best to right that wrong!</p>
<p>With regard to your question, a couple years ago I was at a convention in the town I was living where there were several authors who are signed with Baen Books as well as several of their editors and staff members. One of the events they did was a discussion of the art that they use for their books. The way they described the process was that for a lot of their new authors, they would use pre-made art that fit the theme of the books, but for their established authors (if those authors cared) they would go through a similar process where they would send the book or excerpts from the book to an artist and then the artist would return something representative of the theme of the book, or highlighting a specific scene. But there weren&#8217;t necessarily specific guidelines other than that the art have appropriate whitespace for placing the title and author&#8217;s name on top of the art.</p>
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		<title>By: deborahb</title>
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		<dc:creator>deborahb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;conveys a sense of the book without illustrating a specific moment in the book.&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;conveys a sense of the book without illustrating a specific moment in the book.<i></i></p>
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