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		<title>By: S.L. Farrell</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/24/on-failure/#comment-2609</link>
		<dc:creator>S.L. Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Jim.  Failure is a great teacher... as I know all too well!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Jim.  Failure is a great teacher&#8230; as I know all too well!  <img src='http://www.sfnovelists.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michele Conti</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/24/on-failure/#comment-2606</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele Conti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s how life works though. It&#039;s not that things are a bad idea, it&#039;s just that it&#039;s not the right time for them to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s how life works though. It&#8217;s not that things are a bad idea, it&#8217;s just that it&#8217;s not the right time for them to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: fritz freiheit.com » Friday link dump</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/24/on-failure/#comment-2602</link>
		<dc:creator>fritz freiheit.com » Friday link dump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Failure at SF Novelists [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim C. Hines</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/24/on-failure/#comment-2594</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim C. Hines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marie -- yup :)   Grell was a very different goblin in the first draft.  But she was no fun at all to write.  I&#039;m *really* glad I came up with a better incarnation for her character.  Though now that I think about it, Talia from my current book reminds me a bit of Grell 1.0.  Interesting how things pop up again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie &#8212; yup <img src='http://www.sfnovelists.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />    Grell was a very different goblin in the first draft.  But she was no fun at all to write.  I&#8217;m *really* glad I came up with a better incarnation for her character.  Though now that I think about it, Talia from my current book reminds me a bit of Grell 1.0.  Interesting how things pop up again.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Brennan</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/24/on-failure/#comment-2593</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie Brennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. . . Grell used to be WHAT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . Grell used to be WHAT?</p>
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		<title>By: C.S. Cole</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/24/on-failure/#comment-2591</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S. Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agreed though it took a little time for me to internalize this.  Timely post too, very timely.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agreed though it took a little time for me to internalize this.  Timely post too, very timely.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Wester Newton</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/24/on-failure/#comment-2590</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Wester Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If failing wasn&#039;t OK, none of us would be here.  The history of civilization is the history of failing and trying again.  To paraphrase, Rome wasn&#039;t built on the first try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If failing wasn&#8217;t OK, none of us would be here.  The history of civilization is the history of failing and trying again.  To paraphrase, Rome wasn&#8217;t built on the first try.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim C. Hines</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/24/on-failure/#comment-2589</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim C. Hines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Di -- I wondered if anyone would ask that.  I&#039;ll see if I can pound the post into shape for LJ between now and the end of the month...

There&#039;s definitely a lot to be said for experience, for knowing you&#039;ve failed before and still been able to keep writing (or doing whatever) and succeed on a subsequent attempt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Di &#8212; I wondered if anyone would ask that.  I&#8217;ll see if I can pound the post into shape for LJ between now and the end of the month&#8230;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s definitely a lot to be said for experience, for knowing you&#8217;ve failed before and still been able to keep writing (or doing whatever) and succeed on a subsequent attempt.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Pharaoh Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/24/on-failure/#comment-2588</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana Pharaoh Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to toss in a quote from Eleanor Roosevelt:  &quot;You gain strength, courage and confidence by every experience in which you really top to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, &#039;I lied through his horror. I can take the next thing that comes along&#039; . . . .You must do this thing you think you cannot do.&quot;  

I think that sometimes failing and getting to the other side in writing is what it takes to know that when you are slogging through something that isn&#039;t quite working, or you can&#039;t tell if it&#039;s working, or what have you, that you really can do this. You&#039;ve looked it in the face before (and it is horror when it happens) and you can get through. Successfully.

But I&#039;m really curious about what it was you were going to write about. Can&#039;t wait to see if it ever comes together.

Di</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to toss in a quote from Eleanor Roosevelt:  &#8220;You gain strength, courage and confidence by every experience in which you really top to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, &#8216;I lied through his horror. I can take the next thing that comes along&#8217; . . . .You must do this thing you think you cannot do.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I think that sometimes failing and getting to the other side in writing is what it takes to know that when you are slogging through something that isn&#8217;t quite working, or you can&#8217;t tell if it&#8217;s working, or what have you, that you really can do this. You&#8217;ve looked it in the face before (and it is horror when it happens) and you can get through. Successfully.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m really curious about what it was you were going to write about. Can&#8217;t wait to see if it ever comes together.</p>
<p>Di</p>
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		<title>By: Missy S</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/24/on-failure/#comment-2587</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bwahaha... ok, sorry... that&#039;s for the Grell character change. Very nice. And I love Grell. WHAT a difference! I can&#039;t even imagine the story without her two canes.

As for failure... yeah, realizing most of what I&#039;ve written is childish and needs a higher than 4th grade technique was rough, BUT I am determined. Besides sometimes out of the failures comes the spark for new ideas and characters. And out of failure comes success (hopefully).

Thanks, Jim! -Missy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bwahaha&#8230; ok, sorry&#8230; that&#8217;s for the Grell character change. Very nice. And I love Grell. WHAT a difference! I can&#8217;t even imagine the story without her two canes.</p>
<p>As for failure&#8230; yeah, realizing most of what I&#8217;ve written is childish and needs a higher than 4th grade technique was rough, BUT I am determined. Besides sometimes out of the failures comes the spark for new ideas and characters. And out of failure comes success (hopefully).</p>
<p>Thanks, Jim! -Missy</p>
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