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		<title>By: NextRead &#187; Other places than here - around the blog - o - sphere</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2643</link>
		<author>NextRead &#187; Other places than here - around the blog - o - sphere</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Elliot, a name I&#8217;ll come back to later has a brilliant manifesto for fiction writers: Don&#8217;t Bore Me. I&#8217;d add Get on with it! Tell me what I need to know but no [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Elliot, a name I&#8217;ll come back to later has a brilliant manifesto for fiction writers: Don&#8217;t Bore Me. I&#8217;d add Get on with it! Tell me what I need to know but no [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2603</link>
		<author>Kate Elliott</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2603</guid>
		<description>Bob,  

SFFNovelists is not "my" blog.

It's a group blog featuring daily (or almost daily) posts by a pretty cool mix of science fiction and fantasy writers (I post here once a month).

If you're not already, I invite you to browse some of the other posts by different writers.  There's a lot of interesting stuff here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,  </p>
<p>SFFNovelists is not &#8220;my&#8221; blog.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a group blog featuring daily (or almost daily) posts by a pretty cool mix of science fiction and fantasy writers (I post here once a month).</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not already, I invite you to browse some of the other posts by different writers.  There&#8217;s a lot of interesting stuff here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2600</link>
		<author>Bob</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2600</guid>
		<description>Actually, I'm re-reading what you wrote. I re-read it multiple times, to tell the truth, and I still don't know what you're trying to say. Tongue-in-cheek? I guess I don't get your sense of humor. You start out saying "don't bore me" and then backpedal to say that you realize books are not being written with just you in mind (which is big of you). So, the point being...if a book is boring, stop reading it? I'm totally lost. But then, I guess you're not writing for me in particular, are you? I'm sorry I wasted everyone's time stopping in here. Your blog and your books obviously don't speak to me. Rather than get upset by it, I'll move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;m re-reading what you wrote. I re-read it multiple times, to tell the truth, and I still don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re trying to say. Tongue-in-cheek? I guess I don&#8217;t get your sense of humor. You start out saying &#8220;don&#8217;t bore me&#8221; and then backpedal to say that you realize books are not being written with just you in mind (which is big of you). So, the point being&#8230;if a book is boring, stop reading it? I&#8217;m totally lost. But then, I guess you&#8217;re not writing for me in particular, are you? I&#8217;m sorry I wasted everyone&#8217;s time stopping in here. Your blog and your books obviously don&#8217;t speak to me. Rather than get upset by it, I&#8217;ll move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2598</link>
		<author>Kate Elliott</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2598</guid>
		<description>John,

sometimes I'll skim through boring parts if I'm otherwise liking some elements of a book.    I always feel guilty about it, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>sometimes I&#8217;ll skim through boring parts if I&#8217;m otherwise liking some elements of a book.    I always feel guilty about it, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2597</link>
		<author>Kate Elliott</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2597</guid>
		<description>Migraine,

I like "don't annoy me".  Because I've put down books that I was otherwise thinking were okay when I hit a bit of business that really annoyed me--sometimes because it was badly done but sometimes through no fault of the author's if s/he happened to trigger one of my pet peeves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Migraine,</p>
<p>I like &#8220;don&#8217;t annoy me&#8221;.  Because I&#8217;ve put down books that I was otherwise thinking were okay when I hit a bit of business that really annoyed me&#8211;sometimes because it was badly done but sometimes through no fault of the author&#8217;s if s/he happened to trigger one of my pet peeves.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2596</link>
		<author>Kate Elliott</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2596</guid>
		<description>Bob, 

it helps to read what I actually wrote rather than forcing a false interpretation onto my words.

First, the first two paragraphs (perhaps too subtly) suggest that I'm writing slightly tongue in cheek.

Second, I specifically say that not all books are written to appeal to me;  nor should they be.  Not written to appeal to me means exactly what it says--that is, that I recognize that I will like--or dislike--novels that other people dislike--or like--and for varying reasons.  That's as it should be.  Folks don't all have to have the same taste.

Nowhere do I say that books that bored me "should not have been written."  That's your spin.  Don't put words in my mouth.

Personally, I'm thrilled that Heinlein, one of the seminal sf writers of the 20th century, wrote "Stranger in the Strange Land" and many other novels.  That I did not like "Stranger in a Strange Land" has no bearing on my opinion of certain other of his novels that I did enjoy.  Dude, chill.  I didn't like that particular novel.  It's not that big a deal, unless you subscribe to the idea that everyone has to like (or dislike) the books you like (or dislike) exactly as you like (or dislike) them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, </p>
<p>it helps to read what I actually wrote rather than forcing a false interpretation onto my words.</p>
<p>First, the first two paragraphs (perhaps too subtly) suggest that I&#8217;m writing slightly tongue in cheek.</p>
<p>Second, I specifically say that not all books are written to appeal to me;  nor should they be.  Not written to appeal to me means exactly what it says&#8211;that is, that I recognize that I will like&#8211;or dislike&#8211;novels that other people dislike&#8211;or like&#8211;and for varying reasons.  That&#8217;s as it should be.  Folks don&#8217;t all have to have the same taste.</p>
<p>Nowhere do I say that books that bored me &#8220;should not have been written.&#8221;  That&#8217;s your spin.  Don&#8217;t put words in my mouth.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m thrilled that Heinlein, one of the seminal sf writers of the 20th century, wrote &#8220;Stranger in the Strange Land&#8221; and many other novels.  That I did not like &#8220;Stranger in a Strange Land&#8221; has no bearing on my opinion of certain other of his novels that I did enjoy.  Dude, chill.  I didn&#8217;t like that particular novel.  It&#8217;s not that big a deal, unless you subscribe to the idea that everyone has to like (or dislike) the books you like (or dislike) exactly as you like (or dislike) them.</p>
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		<title>By: fritz freiheit.com » Links from last week (through 2008/03/18)</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2567</link>
		<author>fritz freiheit.com » Links from last week (through 2008/03/18)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2567</guid>
		<description>[...] My Manifesto at SF Novelists (Writing) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] My Manifesto at SF Novelists (Writing) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2566</link>
		<author>John</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2566</guid>
		<description>wow... so it's not a sin?!  I always felt so guilty for not finishing a book or get bored and skim through them.

Actually I still think skimming through boring parts is a bad habit but I think it was mostly due to forced reading.

I will try that 50 pages rule...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230; so it&#8217;s not a sin?!  I always felt so guilty for not finishing a book or get bored and skim through them.</p>
<p>Actually I still think skimming through boring parts is a bad habit but I think it was mostly due to forced reading.</p>
<p>I will try that 50 pages rule&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2550</link>
		<author>Bob</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2550</guid>
		<description>This is not a manifesto. It's just the usual self-absorbed blogwash that clutters up the Internet. "I have something to say, and everybody needs to hear it!" 

Don't bore me? And as an example, you say Stranger in a Strange Land was boring. So, by your definition, this book should not have been written. Hmm. Okay, how do you feel about the Odyssey? Should we tell Homer to keep it to himself, cause Katey doesn't like it? Get over yourself. (And by the way, one book I recently stopped reading halfway through, due to it being very not worthwhile, was the The Golden Key, which you had a hand in. In one swell foop I found three authors I'll never bother with again. Just gawdawful.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a manifesto. It&#8217;s just the usual self-absorbed blogwash that clutters up the Internet. &#8220;I have something to say, and everybody needs to hear it!&#8221; </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bore me? And as an example, you say Stranger in a Strange Land was boring. So, by your definition, this book should not have been written. Hmm. Okay, how do you feel about the Odyssey? Should we tell Homer to keep it to himself, cause Katey doesn&#8217;t like it? Get over yourself. (And by the way, one book I recently stopped reading halfway through, due to it being very not worthwhile, was the The Golden Key, which you had a hand in. In one swell foop I found three authors I&#8217;ll never bother with again. Just gawdawful.)</p>
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		<title>By: Migraine</title>
		<link>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2549</link>
		<author>Migraine</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sfnovelists.com/2008/04/18/my-manifesto/#comment-2549</guid>
		<description>Corollary rule: don't annoy me.  Half the books I never finished just annoyed me.  I'm thinking Stephen Lawhead here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corollary rule: don&#8217;t annoy me.  Half the books I never finished just annoyed me.  I&#8217;m thinking Stephen Lawhead here.</p>
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